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216/001

DLR Proof

Charles Freeland - charles.freeland@hotmail.com



Charles Freeland is looking for a picture of the following item from the DLR records: 1916 new key plate die mounted on card and endorsed ‘Nov 1st 120 leads/No.2’.

This die shows the ‘leaves’ type design used for the GV issues of Br Honduras, Grenada and the 2d and 2/6 of St Lucia (also Br Solomon Is and Malta).

It was referred to in lot 176 in the RL catalogue of 13 April 1986, a Br Honduras lot.



Trinidad

Peter Ford - peterf@bwisc.org




Peter Ford Trinidad Ship Letter appeal


I am looking for replacements for the attached illustrations of Trinidad Ship Letters. If any member owns any of these, or indeed knows of anybody who owns these, could they please contact me. The improved illustrations will hopefully be in our new publication detailing the Philatelic History of Trinidad.


Peter Ford Trinidad Lady McLeod appeal


This is a draft of the Lady McLeod Census Appendix (click here 6mb). If anyone owns any item described herein or knows of anybody who owns one, could they please contact me (peterf@bwisc.org) with a view to having an illustration included in the book. Some of the illustrations are adequate but some are scanned in from photocopies and auction catalogues; it would obviously be better to have first class colour pictures throughout. Thank you


Peter Ford Trinidad Marriott Sale appeal


In 2001 Spink, the auctioneers, very generously provided us with all the images from the Marriott sale catalogue. I will be using these to illustrate our forthcoming work on Trinidad. Unfortunately some of these images were of complete pages of the catalogue and the individual items, usually covers, were visible only in part. If anyone has any of these items illustrated on these pages, particularly the early covers pre-1860, could they please contact me. The pages of the catalogue involved are Pages 21, 22, 25, 54, 61, 66, 81, 83, 87, 91, 93, 99, 109, 111, 131, 142, 144, 151, 152 and 155. I must stress that not all of these images will be used in the book, but those that are may be acknowledged, should the owner be agreeable. It is only with the co-operation of members will this book be a successful endeavour.


214/001

St. Kitts-Nevis

Alan Rigby [Alan_Rigby@ntlworld.com]


Question:

July 2007

MDD PERFIN

Can anyone help solve a puzzle I have come across regarding a Perfin on two Geo VI St. Kitts-Nevis definitives and also on St. Kitts-Nevis 1948 RSW and a 1949 UPU. They all have a perfin MDD in the form MD over a single D. They have all been pen or crayon cancelled 2 in the form of a cross. I have never come across any St. Kitts Perfins before and wondered if someone could held identify the source.


Response:

Aug 2007

Simon Smith contacted Alastair Walter, Perfin Society Librarian, who provided the following information -

I have found a possible match for your perfin, shown in the scan below from the Perfins Club's World Perfins catalogue. This is the only known perfin on stamps of St. Kitts-Nevis.

The catalogue records this perfin being used from 1942, with a possible but unproved user: "Municipal Directors". It is also known on Leeward Is stamps from 1938 onwards.

Unfortunately this rather sparse information is all that I could find.



213/01

Trinidad

Edward Barrow [e.barrow1@verizon.net]


Question:

May 2007

While collecting Trinidad village cancels, I have come across a few stamps with what looks like monograms applied to them (see picture). The first is an 1883 QV 1d (SG 107). I am not familiar with the florid text used on these monograms, but as far as I can make out the leading candidates are SB, SM and SW. On top of the monogram an unreadable Marriott type 9 numeral cancel was applied.

The second monogram was applied to a series of 1d postage dues (SG D10, 1905). These came from a fairly large accumulation of low value postage dues with a wide degree of cancels and dates. The style of this text bears a strong resemblance to that of the former and I think reads RO.

As far as I know postal authorities were rather prickly about private individuals defacing stamps and in this regard these attempts seem deliberate. Has anyone else turned up examples like these, either on stamp or cover? Can anyone shed any light on whether these might be postal markings? In the case of Trinidad, the only slightly similar precedent I can think of is the use of the oval “Post Office San Fernando” seal. I would also be grateful if anyone with knowledge of reading monograms could confirm what the letters read and if there is a protocol as to which letter comes first.

212/05

Trinidad

Michael Nethersole [mike.nethersole1@verizon.net]


Question:

Jan 2007

Subject: Trinidad; On H.M.S. --- "Essays" on Queen's Head Issue

I did not know about the On H.M.S. "Essays" on Queen's Head Issue until the Matthew Bennett / H.A.Harmers Sale of the Ramkissoon Collection. Please refer to Lots 2234; 2235; and 2236. I have an example of the ½d. which I had thought was a bogus production. It is a used example, very similar to that shown in the illustration for Lot 2236. The "Trinidad" cancel is the same, including the date; z.z/ AU 4/ 90, which is interesting in itself. If you look closely at the illustration, you will note that the code is z.z (not just z as described for the lot). There is also a small dot between the two z's, at middle height, which can be seen in the illustration if you look for it. All this I know because my strike is clearer. If authentic, the code "z.z" must make this a rare cancel, because I have only found codes A, B, and C, (and a peculiarly shaped "D":- possibly a malformed A, or B?), for this size of datestamp. Even on the larger diameter Trinidad datestamps, I have only found codes running from A through F.


I also have a "GOVT PARCELS" overprint on a used 4d.Queen's Head, but the stamp is torn in half vertically, The date on this Trinidad cancel is A/ ? 30/ 83 as far as I can see, because the strike is poor and smudged.


Do any of our members have some definitive reference for either of these "essays"?



Response May 2007

Edward Barrow [e.barrow1@verizon.net]

In the last bulletin Michael Nethersole raised questions about the status of the ‘On HMS’ Trinidad essays and the cancels applied to them – (Question 212/05). While I cannot provide any definitive reference, I too have come across one of these with the same cancel and the same date. I thought a picture of the item might be useful for members not familiar with the subject. Also, it should be noted that examples of these were featured in Marriott sale - (Spink, 19th September 2001, lots 612-3).



212/04

British Guiana

Michael Hamilton (Michael_DC_Hamilton@compuserve.com)


Question:

Nov 2006

I'm trying to get a better understanding of how the 1890's 'Postage Due' adhesives worked, and in particular why it was deemed necessary to additional kill the adhesive by application of the office datestamp.

The attached scan shows the full 'POSTAGE DUE./CENTS' handstamp (Type PD 1) as illustrated Townsend & Howe Page 361 with '"Rather crude strikes of this stamp have been found on issues of 1889-90 and one on a dated piece of 1895. None so far has the space for number of cents filled in. In black. Scarce."

My copies (below) are both on 2c dull purple & orange CA (SG.194) and are cancelled T.P.O. DEMERARA RIVER (T.1a) NO 4 1896 and MAHAICA (T.4) 8 AP 97.

  • There seem to be three options: The PD 1 handstamp was applied to the added adhesive at Head Office killing the stamp, and addition of the office dater was only applied to show arrival date - but why on the stamp?
  • A whole range of offices were supplied with PD 1 handstamps, but again why was the dater additionally applied?
  • A datestamp is intended to kill the adhesive and show when. So, is there any possibility that sheets of various denominations were pre-cancelled with the PD 1 handstamp and sent to various offices for use as and when. As the pre-cancelled stamp was affixed it was then finally killed by the office dater as would be for a normal stamp.


Details of other loose stamps are required, particular their denominations and sight of the T+H mentioned dated piece would be most interesting.


Any thoughts greatly appreciated.




212/03

Tobago

Michael Hamilton (Michael_DC_Hamilton@compuserve.com)


Question:

Nov 2006

Moriah and Pembroke Post Offices opened on January 1st 1897 with no known use of datestamps until 1929 and 1937 respectively. Can any member record use of re-allocated "A14" obliterator on either the Tobago 1896 ½d on 4d lilac & carmine (SG.33), or Trinidad Seated Britannia low values (SG.114-116, SG.126-127).

212/02

Bermuda

Michael Hamilton (Michael_DC_Hamilton@compuserve.com)


Question:

Nov 2006

Can members please supply details of their Type H2 "PAID" cds - for (a) only fully dated PAID cds without codes, and (b) partial or full dates for their PAID cds showing codes.

212/01

Jamaica

Michael Hamilton (Michael_DC_Hamilton@compuserve.com)


Question:

Nov 2006

Can anyone explain how the "7" of the "A79" (Type H) became missing. Would it have been chiselled out, or the result of actual damage? If the latter do any of the strikes of the full "A79" show initial damage to figures.

The only "A79" (H) cover is illustrated in the Woodward handbook dated FE 2 1866 addressed to Rev. Woodcock, Ontario. The earliest date for the relacement "A79" (J) is given by Sutcliffe/Potter for AU 7 1866. What is the supporting evidence for this AU 7 1866 date?

If only five months elapsed between "A79" (H) and "A79 (J) what was the Richmond Post Office using as a canceller as no examples of the damaged "A 9" (H) are recorded on Pine wmk stamps?


211/01

St Kitts

Simon Smith (via info@bwisc.org)


Question:

Nov 2006

UNUSUAL POSTMARK?

I've come across this St. Kitts postmark which doesn't seem to be listed anywhere.

It has a particularly strange upward stroke on the ‘K’ and the last ‘S’ is well spaced away from’ KITT’.

Any comments and information would be welcome




Response:

Jan 2007

Michael Nethersole [mike.nethersole1@verizon.net]

I have an almost complete set to the 5/- KG-VI perf.14 with this cancel, all dated 6 FE.48, which I presumed had come from a philatelic cover, since nearly all of the strikes are full, and at 12 o'clock. I also have the 5/- KG-VI Silver Wedding with this cancel dated 7 FE.49. One cannot help but think of Madame Joseph, so I had a look. The cancel is not an exact match, but it is close, to the example shown as Fig.353, in Derek Worboys first edition.( I do not have the second edition.) I fear that my "set" of perf. 14 used, all beautifully "socked on the nose", is an example of that "artist's" work.

Brian M Cartwright

IT IS NOT a Madame Joseph, BUT that does not mean it is genuine!


211/02

St Lucia

John Davis (via info@bwisc.org)


Question:

Nov 2006

I am trying to complete my research into the St. Lucia War Tax stamps.

I know that an adopted and an unadopted essay exist – Robson Lowe sale Feb 1979, but I would like to get a photocopy or scan of them, or even better, have sight of the real thing. Do any members know where they are now?

The same goes for imperforate proofs, except I have no record of them existing, but am sure they must have done as with all other colonies.

Is it known how many of the stamps were locally overprinted War Tax, or where I may be able to find this information, if records exist?

When the War Tax was abolished on 30 June 1919, Ewens reported that all existing stocks of War Tax stamps were destroyed. Is it known how many stamps were destroyed, or where I may be able to find this information? I have a feeling that no records exist.

210/03

St Christopher

Fitz Roett (fitzroett@shaw.ca)


Question:

2006 June

In Bulletin No. 207: On Pg. 6 – “As a result of insurance fraud in the 1780s – 90s it was decided to have dated postmarks… “ Can someone please provide the reference(s) to corroborate this statement?


Response:

23 Jun 2006

Steve Jarvis:

The following taken from The Postal History of Jamaica by Thomas Foster.

The application of these [country name] handstamps [All the West Indian offices were using these straight-line handstamps at this time] enabled the G.P.O. to locate the place of posting in order to effect proper postal charges. They did not however, offer any safeguard as to when the letter was given into the care of the Post Office and this matter was therefore rectified in 1798, as a result of a letter of complaint from several London underwriters to the Secretary of the General Post Office.


[This and the following letter can be seen at the G.P.O. Record Office, London]


Lloyds Coffee House, 5th October 1798.

Sir,

A considerable Insurance having been made upon a Vessel by a very respectable House upon a Letter of Order per packet dated at Martinque the 9th of February last,2 the Ship was lost the same evening, and a Cutter on the 10th of February, went from Martinique, with letters to meet the same Packet at St. Kitts; by which the House at Martinique did not think proper to advise the Loss; and on 1st of March forward a Copy of their Letter of the 9th of February, ordering the Insurance, and say nothing more about the Ship.

The Underwriters being called upon for the Loss, refuse to pay; under the idea that a person forwarding a Copy of an Order for an Insurance, twenty days after he knew of the loss of the Ship, would be equally capable of antidating the original.

It has therefore been suggested to the Committee of this House, that an application to you to give Orders to the Post Masters in His Majesty's West India Islands and America to put a Stamp with the date of the precise time in which any Letters may be put into their respective Offices, may prevent many frauds.



Being of the same opinion, we shall be greatly obliged by your giving the necessary directions, and are

Very Respectfully

Sir,

Francis Freeling Esq.


Your most obdt. Servants,

Edward Vaux William Bell ,Wm. Whitmore Robt. Christie, Alex Champion.


Freeling forwarded this request and his own approval to the Postmasters General, in a letter reading:-


General Post Office 6 Octr. 1798.

My Lords,

I have the honor to enclose a Representation from the Committee of Underwriters at Lloyd's Coffee House, stating a circumstance where it is conjectured an attempt has been made to defraud the Insurers of a Vessel coming from Martinique to London, and praying, that with a view to lessen the practicability of such attempts hereafter, directions may be given to the Deputy Postmasters in the West India Islands to put a Stamp with the date of the day on which any Letters may be put into their respective Offices.

The reasonableness of the application, its good object, and the respectability of the Applicants will I presume induce your Lordships to consent to their wishes.

The reasons which might be urged against the granting permission to use these Stamps indiscriminately cannot I presume apply to the West Indies, where the Deputies are well informed Men, and capable of performing the Duties with accuracy.

All of which is humbly submitted by

The Right Honorable F. Freeling.

The Postmasters General.


This letter carries the following endorsement:--

Octr. 8.

Very right-Let the Postmasters in the W.I. Islands be directed to make use of a stamp specifying the day on which any Letters may be put into their respective Offices.

(signed) Leicester, Auckland


The new markings do not appear on Jamaican letters until the following year and although it cannot be stated with any certainty, it would seem that they were supplied in duplicate and further renewed a few years later. At this early date, all `plugs' would be comprised of loose type and the handstamp redated each morning.



210/01



NEVIS



Chris Cordes (belvadere@worldonline.co.za)



Question:

2006 June

Where can I find a schedule of postal rates used in/from Nevis from say 1850 to 1890 or thereabouts?


Response:

July 2006

Federico Borromeo:The ‘Bible’ for researches in that field is the L. E. Britnor booklet : British West Indies Postal Rates up to 1900, 1977


210/02



NEVIS


Chris Cordes (belvadere@worldonline.co.za)


Question:

2006 June

Where can I find information on who lived in Nevis during the period 1850 to 1890, including the "postmasters"?


Response:

July 2006

Federico Borromeo has supplied limited information gleaned from the ‘Blue Book’.

This is published on this link



209/01



BARBADOS



Michael Hamilton



Question:

2006 May

Several years ago I saw in Ritchie Bodily's stock three single Britannia stamps of the 1875-80 period each cancelled by the Barbadoes Crowned Circle. Can any member assist with illustrations plus details of the actual stamps


Response



209/02



BARBADOS



Michael Hamilton



Question:

2006 May

My records show no use of the ST. JOHN (Type M3) cds for the period MY 1 1889 to AP 23 1890. Dates of strikes between those dates would be appreciated plus any information of hurricane activity which could have affected postal operations in that parish at that time


Response:

9 May 2006

Charles Freeland :

I have St John M3 for Aug 3 1889


Follow up:

10 May 2006

Over the years I have parted with two QV ½d (SG.89/90) with M3 cancels dated ST. THOMAS AU 16 88 and ST. PHILIP 3/OC 28 89 both showing part strikes unidentified brass negative mailbag seal cancels. If anyone has these I'm now anxious to confirm those year dates as correct.


209/03



ST. VINCENT



Michael Hamilton



Question:

2006 May

Until recently no cancellations for Layou were recorded between NO 8 1912 and MY 12 31. This 19 year gap has been bridged by a single 25mm Layou dated MR 10 23 with previously unseen "A" code on pair KGV 1d (SG.132). Can any further strikes be recorded?


Response:

20 June 2006

Bryan Atkinson

reports that he has the 25mm Layou cds dated 15 OC 30 (without code letter) on reg. parcel post envelope to J.C. Ronald, Salcombe, Devon.

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